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Kuda Kepang is a very subjective thing here. If i’m not wrong, MUIS have banned this activity in SIngapore long ago. And as what i can remember, i only remembered on group that is still daring to perform it. But recently, 4-5 or even more have started this mystical activities. Well, it’s true they say this art depicting from the legend of the 9 walis, expressing in terms of thier horse fighting in bringing islam into malay achipelago. But somehow it turn to be mystic. I have been observing kuda kepang for about 6 years. In singapore, as been showed on TV in ‘Bongkar’ series in suria, it said that the confidence of dancer caused them to be under possesion, using holy verses as guidance.But in indonesia, known as ‘ebeg’, they r inviting the spirit of the dead to perform with them. The most interesting is that, if the dancer have 6 persons, and the invited ‘guests’ have more, it will possess the audience.Scary huh.But sure in kuda kepang, one thing i dun like is using women as player. To be frank, the chic are hot. But will you accept them ‘hot’ when they started chew glass in front of u, been smack with ‘cemeti’, giving u a horror expression and bleeding here n there????..Think about it.
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well…
this is pretty informative.
basically im starting to research more about this kuda kepang cause, my students are starting to do this in school itself.
to prepare for the inevitable,
i researched.
i’ve already scolded my students,
but i dont think they understand the extent of the danger of getting possessed.
to them its cool and fun.
the reason why im very particular about this kind of thing cause this isnt the first time i had a brush with it.
i just hope that the older generation would not influenced the younger generation in doing this kind of ’syirik’.
thats all i have to say.
anyway thanks for the v informative info.
who are you to say its syirik? you think you’re one of the Islam setter to say its Syirik? If its syirik they won’t use Q’uran verse when they’re in trance. You don’t know anything just don’t spout nonsense. Thank you. & for your info,i’m from a kuda kepang group.
& its in our tradition already. IF MUIS BAN IT ALREADY,WHY THERE ARE SUCH THING STILL GOING ON? BRAINLESS.
@ Budak Jawa: gobsmacked say ’syirik’ wit quotes, its “something like syiriks but it’s not”. got that????? understand????
“If its syirik they won’t use Q’uran verse… ” then use what? African language? Keling language? voodoo language???? WHat??
What makes you think syirik is not in arabic words? Do you know what the meaning of syirik? Here, read and understood: http://trimul.multiply.com/journal/item/4/Pengertian_Syirik_dan_Macam-Macamnya
Muis dont ban it cause traditional, harmless and for shows. because why… singapore kuda kepang are fake. ive seen the real kuda kepang before in indonesia that they danced floating on air. those are the real ones. if those are in singpore, then Muis will ban them cause its syirik.
Just because you into kuda kepang then what? think you big f***? think you know alot till you can call people brainless? you know nothing, ur kuda kepang is nothing but ‘circus donkey’ in singapore. i have proved all the points to you as said above, fact the fact… you know nothing.
I have seen kepang show before..but for me kuda kepang nowadays itz just for shows..I noe u guys saw them being whipped or eating glasses…but i still i believe itz only for show..Muis cant banned it..itz our culture..dont mix wtih religion n culture..Itz different
The REAL kuda kepang show i still remember n til now I STILL REMEMBER..is i think if my memory is good..was in 1989 to 1991..It performed at my hometown WEST COAST DRIVE..as then im only 6 to 7 yrs old
I watch the performance..yeah they being whipped…eaten glasses…but on 1 occassion something…1 of the performers saw this guy wearing red…the performers chase the the guy like a bull charging on him..it was scary…the guy was being kicked by the kuda kepang guy…and flung onto the road..the crowd immediately try to stop the kuda kepang guy…that guy in red collapsed til the ambulance several later…that was so scary..
but now i also attend the wedding n kuda kepang show..nothing happen…and a lot of guest wearing red watch them so near live..
so yeah itz only for show
thats all and chiows
ooops i shud check b4 i send..a lot of grammatical error
To Sever
do you even know the history of kuda kepang in singapore?
they float too. they even fly. why even argue in this cyber world? go meet the master of kuda kepang in singapore. IF YOU PEOPLE THINK ITS WRONG,THEN WHY BOTHER? JUST SHUT UP. OUR GRAVE,WE WILL ANSWER OURSELF. Stop being nosey. No,i’m not trying to act BIG **** HERE,but im saying a part as a member of kuda kepang. just shut up and go to bed you TOOOOOT! okay stop being nosey alright. okay case close.
Harryex-yeah,mostly nowadays kuda kepang is for show. only some groups will chase after the colour of red. btw i hope you enjoy watching them(:
Boy Jawa & Server :
Both of you watch your language. You not happy with one another, go elsewhere and do it or else I’ll make sure both of you won’t every get to enter this website again! GABISH!
Wow..such drama over an ass..
Tradition is nothing more than the passing down of elements of a culture from generation to generation, especially by oral communication.
The Prophet challenges the old way of praying to deities although it was deemed to be a tradition, did he not? I am in no way of preaching here, but we need to be careful and selective of what tradition we uphold. Its not wrong to challenge a tradition if it creates more harm than good for its people. Certainly, if it was a beautiful tradition that uphold the values of a certain race why not continue it for many generations to come?
The kuda kepang dance was no doubt beautiful but I feel it is unnecessary for the ’spiritual’ part of it. Look in any Guiness World of Records and you can see various attempts of people eating glasses, lying on a bed of nails etc..Stuffs that is inhumanly impossible. But these are done without the use of chants, are they not? Normal human beings who has mastered the mind over matter. So kuda kepang practitioners, why go to such spiritual extend for the sake of entertainment?
It is no different than watching a kavadi during Thaipusam.
PG, outz!
Kuda kepang i think involves the ‘jinn’.
I know kuda kepang dancing is wrong but I like watching them and last week I stand for 2 hours watching them dance at Jurong West.
well to wat i noe,its a sin to join kude kepang,but not a sin to the normal dancing one.kude kepang that kene rasuk is the one wif sin.yes,MUIS bann it,but for a reason. in Quran,its a sin to hurt urself in anyway,weather to piercing or tattoo.in this case,you allow a spirit to enter your body and allow it to harm you in anyway. well server,kude kepang in singapore is totally not fake,not that i wanna interfere wif you and bdk jawa but hey,singapore kude kepang is the real thing,except that its different frm the one in indon. well,i’m not sure if its syirik anot..so yup,please stop fighting,different ppl have differen believe,am’i right? watch Telung Turonggo at Youtube! my fav!
chow!
hahah..thanx 4 ur information..i really need this kind information for asgmnt,,,thanx again…
I don’t think Allah will wish muslim to follow the budaya of “kuda kepang”. Each spirit of human or animal shall go to the other world not stay at human world to do this type of performance. How long shall these spirits to stay in the human world? no matter human spirits or animal spirits, they do have the right shall go to the other world. God don’t need to show their power thru this kind of performance, eat chrcoal, eat glass, eat grass. The religion is teaching us go to the right path, not showing this kind of mystery performance. Why human wanna control the spirits of animals? If next life he or she be a horse, do their want their’s spirits being control? why before muslim sembelih the chicken they need to baca doa?
After watching kuda kepang presentation yesterday, it’s very different from its origins (Java). It looks more like trance and ayat - ayat Qur’an doesn’t invoke spirits, in fact, they drive spirits away. Whenever trance occurs, the person invoke and welcome spirit to ‘reside’ in his or her body. There is no way ayat - ayat Qur’an has involvement in this activity. Invocation is done by reading some doa that is not pure ayat Qur’an (could have some other word insertion somewhere). To get spirits to cooperate, you have to ‘break’ Islamic law. At the very least, you must declare that there is another god besides Allah. This is easily done when your aqidah is thwarted by reading some mantras. Then, they will come and reside your body. This is the part that is syirik.
It’s better to repent before we die if we are involved in such things.
If it’s the normal dance, as long as the intention is not to present it to dewa xxx, then I do not think it’s syirik.
if i’m not wrong i heard that its not syirik if the verses used are from the Quran, but it IS if the verses are reversed. I heard that if the verses are reversed, it would be even more dramatic, for instances those which can fly and stuff, usually uses the reversed verses. hrrm. Kude Kepang seems interesting, but if the point is to spread the teachings of Islam, why is it given to the hands of teenagers or young adults? Is it safe? Are they educated enough to take care of themselves? *note these are questions cause I’m curious.. not sarcasm or what nots*
peace and will be looking forward to replies.